Curse

naughteblonde · Nov 14, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29

*scratches head*
Economy? I thought the idea behind this update was to make some titles less grindtastic but for the books we need to repeat something many of us have already done multiple times.
No disrespect intended but that is the essence of grind, nay?

moriz · Nov 14, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by Cherno

I'm really sad about this update. There are some of us who have been playing loyally and thoroughly for years. These books will force me to do all the title work I already did again to be able to do anything with them and thanks for wasting even more already precious inventory slots with non-stackable books.

To top it off, I don't even know if it's worth it because they don't tell you what a full book will be worth and they kept the cap so damn high.

Adding the kurz and luxon faction is nice to retro fit what quests we've done. But stupidly they give them to us at the same time, so when we donate one, the other goes down and makes it pointless.

Ridiculous, too long to wait until gw2 and now to punish those who have been playing all this time is a slap in the face. Add me to the "i'm out of here" group of whiners. Thanks for the pointless update and loss of a huge fanbase.

wait... where does it say that the books will "FORCE" you to do those missions again? will your character somehow perform worse if it didn't complete the books? i really don't understand your logic here... how is it that you are FORCED to complete the books on older characters?

the rest of your post can be basically summed up as: "you gave me free stuff, but i want more free stuff, so you fail." please try to reduce your sense of entitlement please.

Lest121 · Nov 14, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

OK i have a QQ not a big AB player after the update my Lux went higher than Kurz, my alliance is Kurz I can't dump off the Luxs without losing the Kurz, sheeeesh ANET give us easier ways of dumping off points that we don't care for, without getting a benefit.

therangereminem · Nov 14, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Young Heroes of Tyria I DONT GET HOW THAT BOOK WORKS

Stolen Souls · Nov 14, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

WTB: Bookshelf

TurinPT · Nov 14, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Players who have lost their copy of Zho's Journal can speak with Zho [Interrupt Henchman] in Gunnar's Hold to get a new copy.

YES! Thank you Anet

Commander Ryker · Nov 14, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

tl;dr lol j/k

Lot's of nice updates. As for the books, I'll just hold on to them and just fill them as I help friends and such with missions.

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Originally Posted by nvmu

OK so the books are not retroactive which means to get anything out of them you have to redo everything, so as far as i am looking at this that means an increase in grinding, makes these retroactive so each can be used once without ahveing to redo everything at it wouldn't be a lot better

It's only a grind if you have to do it.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Nov 14, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

ANet, very good job, very good indeed, gunna go collect a ton of shiet in GW right now.

And to all the PvP grievers, get the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO over yourselves

Chocobo1 · Nov 14, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Also another problem, if SS/LB doesn't give favor anymore than how are we going to get it? Sure there will be a boost in the upcoming months because of this title update but after that it's going to decline so bad.

nvmu · Nov 14, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by moriz

wait... where does it say that the books will "FORCE" you to do those missions again? will your character somehow perform worse if it didn't complete the books? i really don't understand your logic here... how is it that you are FORCED to complete the books on older characters?

the rest of your post can be basically summed up as: "you gave me free stuff, but i want more free stuff, so you fail." please try to reduce your sense of entitlement please.

Um no one was forcing you to grind titles but yet they changed that anyways, so you logic is just as faulty, and i now have 95.5k lb points, um ya...

Hyper Cutter · Nov 14, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

They decided not to allow people to pay to add pages because they were concerned about the negative effects on the economy.

Isn't that unfair to people who did the missions already? Especially when you let us do it with the EotN books?

And I was so excited about the books until this. I'm sure as hell not doing every mission 9 more times to get the rewards I should be getting for the original time I did them...

Keira Nightgale · Nov 14, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

tl;dr lol j/k

Lot's of nice updates. As for the books, I'll just hold on to them and just fill them as I help friends and such with missions.

It's only a grind if you have to do it.

Yeh seriously I don't get their point, they are not forcing them to redo any missions, on top of that they are not removing their titles. Anet added a thing to the game, if you want a nice reward fill the book, if not you can it alone.

Dzjudz · Nov 14, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by therangereminem

Young Heroes of Tyria I DONT GET HOW THAT BOOK WORKS

The campaign books (Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall) are normal mode and hard mode books for the missions from respectively Lion's Arch, Kaineng Center and Kamadan.

The Young Heroes of Tyria book is only in Hard Mode form, and is for all the missions before Lion's Arch, Kaineng Center and Kamadan.

I'm just wondering about the rewards.

Chocobo1 · Nov 14, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

ANet, very good job, very good indeed, gunna go collect a ton of shiet in GW right now.

And to all the PvP grievers, get the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO over yourselves

Our bad for wanting our issues fixed instead of you getting easier titles.

fusa · Nov 14, 2008, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

They decided not to allow people to pay to add pages because they were concerned about the negative effects on the economy.

Couldn't the cost of adding missing pages everyone missed out on offset the gold reward?

Nice update, but the books are a let down for people who have already completed the game multiple times in normal and hard modes.

moriz · Nov 14, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by nvmu

Um no one was forcing you to grind titles but yet they changed that anyways, so you logic is just as faulty, and i now have 95.5k lb points, um ya...

i did not state my own logic on anything, merely questioned someone else's logic. therefore, you cannot say my logic is faulty, because i didn't present my own logic.

nvmu · Nov 14, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

It's only a grind if you have to do it.

People didn't have to do titles but they choose to, so i guess titles are not grinding either, and on that note, if you want to get rewards from the books you have to do it again, just like to get rewards from titles you have to do them..... grind

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Originally Posted by moriz

i did not state my own logic on anything, merely questioned someone else's logic. therefore, you cannot say my logic is faulty, because i didn't present my own logic.

but the logic you used to question his/her logic was faulty

Nightow · Nov 14, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Wooot! Very good update. Thanks Linsey, Regina and everyone else who worked on this update!

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Alaris [Consumables] has arrived in The Deep outpost and crafts Jadeite Summoning Stones.

HELL YEAH! I'm stocking up on these bad boys alright!

P.S. If you don't already know, it summon Siege Turtles!

byteme! · Nov 14, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

It was just yesterday when a bunch of undeserving degenerates were crying about how this update was small and unfulfilling. From the looks of this update Anet put in ALLLLLLLLLLLLLOT of work. The amount of changes are staggering. Anet gave us an inch and we asked for a mile. Well, we got our mile now. I suspect a few ungreatful individuals are gonna ask for a light year?

Konig Des Todes · Nov 14, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Liking the new books, although sad that I can't pay to fill one out for those who did the missions. But I just hope for new lore by them!

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

They decided not to allow people to pay to add pages because they were concerned about the negative effects on the economy.

Glad you posted this before I posted anything. (Although, economy? That will need a LOT more work, if Linsey can fix that, I shall worship her). While it prevents the economy from getting worse, it doesn't help. Hope the Live Team gets to this though. Update for December?

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

Does this not give the Kurzick side a decidedly overwhelming advantage?

I think that's the point. Give Kurzicks the advantage in FA, Luxons in JQ, help bring back JQ.

Although I don't like that the K/L faction was given at once - should have been given by talking to the reward NPCs. I lost 80k Luxon points to the title by this. But meh, I'm 20k from r6 now for Kurzick. WOO!

And Haha to FFF. ^^

And to the QQ'ers. Shut up PLEASE. This update is not perfect, Linsey might be great for ANet, but she is still human. This update could not possibly fix every issue. So the things YOU wanted done did not get touched, that means that they may be in the future. So PLEASE just stop complaining.

Anyways, GREAT UPDATE LINSEY AND LIVE TEAM!!